The BSN Avalanche Podcast returns with AJ Haefele and Adrian Dater talking about the 3-2 OT win by the Colorado Avalanche over the Winnipeg Jets.

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AJ Haefele

This Aurora, Colorado native moved to Katy, Texas at a young age but found himself right back at home in 2009 and would begin covering the Avalanche a year later.

Before joining BSN Denver, A.J. had been writing for and briefly managed the popular Avalanche blog, Mile High Hockey. A.J. has been providing detailed practice reports, training camp coverage, and in-depth looks at the Avalanche and their divisional foes since 2010.

  • cerveau

    This was the first game where I seriously disagreed with Dater and Haefele wrt how the Avs played. Unfortunately I don’t have time to go into specifics, but I’m curious as to how others felt.

    • Charlie Anderson

      I never agree with the constant ripping on Nieto. Nieto seems solid in both ends and like he usually has pretty good jump. I don’t agree that sometimes it’s like “oh there’s just nothing going on offensively”, not in this game at least. I thought the offense was electric alot of the time. The rookie/roomie/college line was quite exciting, the doghouse line had good chances, Johnson and Barrie had a ton of shots, and then there’s Mack. Other than that I thought they were right on. Except AD was way wrong about that first overtime goal. Morrissey hit it in.

    • Av-a-dabba-doo

      @ Cerveau: I had a pretty lengthy response to your post. It was up for a while but has disappeared. And no, I didn’t first save it in a Word file.

      • cerveau

        Here is Av-a-dabba-doo’s first response:

        I actually have disagreed with AJ & AD before (more the latter), though I hope they feel it has always been done respectfully. Here are the comments I sort of jotted down listening to this podcast:
        – Rantanen did NOT touch that first (nullified) OT goal — sorry, Mr. Dater.
        – I felt the overall level of the Avalanche’s play was better than our podcasters did. Not “superb”, but with many positives. I went away hopeful.
        – Very much agree with Dater about several very skillful, well-timed passes that got us out of sticky situations. Love to see that!
        – I think Dater and I (and whoever picked the game’s stars) were a little more impressed by Kerfoot in this one than was Haefele. BTW, his back-pass across was lovely.
        – I’m starting to wonder if having B OTH Andrighetto AND Nieto is one too many roster spots for a fast-skating, skilled guy who is going to get out-muscled a lot against the boards. I think the dimension they bring to the game is good, but maybe not two-roster-spot good.
        – EJ’s slash was almost comical — like he feels that if you’re going to do it, go full Paul Bunyan!
        – Tad too hard on Yak, IMHO.
        – Is Dater just in the habit (still) of calling Var-LA-mov, VAR-la-mov? Very minor point.
        – Why does the podcast have the sponsors they do? (Cannabis & bookies?) Were there no other sponsor options (like Total Beverage)? At least it’s not Sammy’s Sex Toys … yet. 😉

        • OCMS

          Well at least they are consistent: cannabis, gambling and alcohol. “The BSN Avs podcast. Brought to you by all the legal vices!”

          Hey I’m glad they have sponsors. BSN is a non-traditional format, attempting to cover all the local teams and they are dedicating lots of resources to them. Look at the Avs coverage. They’ve got a whole bunch of guys covering them and bring content daily. Sponsors are based on who wants to pay for ad time, this is who is willing to pay. Besides, why not sit back, watch the game, take a toke, make a bet and have some booze? 🙂

          • Av-a-dabba-doo

            As a “Mr. Clean” when it comes to the “legal vices” you mention, I still loved the humor of your post, OCMS. Keep it up. The website will only be made better and more enjoyable. 🙂

        • AJ Haefele

          Never any offense taken when people disagree with us. We’re paid in part to put opinions out there and as such, you’re going to run into disagreements from folks. It’s just the nature of the business. FWIW, I liked Kerfoot’s game. He was the best part of that line imo.

          I think the long term roster battle is going to come down to Andrighetto/NIeto/Yakupov because I just don’t see all three sticking it out. They all bring something a little different to the table and that’s why they’re in the lineup now but with the talent on the way it’s a short-term solution.

          • Av-a-dabba-doo

            Yeah, I’ve never felt you had a thin skin. You’ve always said on your podcasts that dissenting views are welcome, as long as they are respectfully expressed — and I agree 100p. You have taught me a good deal, and have made my Avalanche fandom even more enjoyable. Loved your write-ups on advanced stats, for example. Thank you!

          • cerveau

            I may disagree with you (AJ and AD) from time to time, but hey, I still like you guys and would enjoy hangin with ya during these discussions. I enjoy both of your energy, humor and witty back and forths during your talks. Plus disagreement adds eyeballs and participation and advertizing revenue… hey, more power to you, and win/win for all of us.

        • hopfenkopf

          Dater is using the appropriate syllabic emphasis on VarLAMov’s surname. Let him be.

          • Av-a-dabba-doo

            @ Hopfenkopf: Just making sure you didn’t misunderstand me. I’m saying that Var-LA-mov is correct (as Semyon himself has stated), but Dater more often accents the first syllable. Sometimes he does say it right, though. Never meant to make it a big point anyway. Just a tad curious. I’ll try not to mention it again.

        • Av-a-dabba-doo

          Thanks for the ‘save’ of my OP, Cerv. I don’t know how you did it. My theory is that when I make a list (the dashes, bullet points), that format triggers a response that eats my post — so I’m going to try not to do that anymore. Again, thank you very much. I just didn’t want to take the time to write it all again.

          • cerveau

            Welcome, Avva.
            I am MAGIC… super programmer wiz!!! Genius!!!
            (NOT)
            Seriously though:
            It was easy… I got some email from Discus indicating you had replied, and there was your long response.
            So it seems the system recorded your response and emailed it to me before you accidentally deleted it.

            If only it was slways that easy…

  • bob_w

    For what it’s worth on the power play in the 1st period Berrie took a shot from the blue line in the center of the ice that got through and just missed the net by a hair to the right of the goal tender. The goalie was completely screened and wasn’t covering that side of the net.

  • -9C

    The Barrie discussion is ground hog day. He will play great in games suited to him, and can win games, by his great offensive play. He will lose games with bad skating and poor defensive play. He can do both in a single game, and be the best and worst player on the ice. He can have a month of great games, then have a month of bad ones. If Sakic chooses to look at his upside, and keep him, the Avs likely will forever be the up/down team, it is.

    The Avs inconsistency mirrors Barrie’s game. I don’t think it’s all Barrie’s fault, but just saying if they
    keep the guy for the long run, the Avs will not likely be a true contender.